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Chapter 17 Drink and ask


"I have heard that the bishop preaches that God loves the world, regardless of one another, and values whether the believer is in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Scriptures, not who they are, whether they are magicians or vampires, as long as they sincerely believe in God, believe in God from the heart, and behave in accordance with their beliefs, then they are pious and redeemable righteous people."

Lucien ignored Richard's astonishment, and instead spoke like a scholar, seeking guidance.

Lucien did not exactly follow the content of "justification by faith" in the soul library, because the Cult of Truth and the cross on earth only have some resemblance to God, not the same religion, and the interpretation of "justification by faith" is based on the incarnation of the Messiah and the salvation of the world, and the Cult of Truth does not have such miracles, nor does such a savior exist, and the random application will only make Richard laugh and lose his teeth.

Therefore, Lucien diverged the content of "justification by faith" and substituted it into the more general religious laws.

Hearing Lucian's question, Richard gradually suppressed his surprise, initially suspecting that it was the temptation of the devil or the persuasion of the magician, and a kind smile appeared on his face: "So tell us that the honest man is not afraid, he will ascend to the Holy Ament, the merciful man is not afraid, he will ascend to the heavenly mountain, and the righteous man is not afraid, he will be favored."

This is the text of a passage in the Holy Scriptures, and Richard recited it and said: "If a magician or a vampire can believe in the Lord from the bottom of his heart, and do everything strictly according to his own beliefs, then he must be religious, and he must be a righteous person who will be redeemed, and there are many examples of this in the ranks of the night watchmen in the Inquisition, and other magicians, dark creatures, what do they do in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Scriptures."

"Bishop Richard, you are talking about ancient magicians, they are cruel, crazy, bloody, they are indeed unrighteous people, and they cannot be redeemed, but modern magicians, most of them obey the laws of the kingdom, do not indulge in luxury, do not indulge, yearn for good things, what is there about them that does not conform to the teachings of the holy scriptures" Lucien smiled.

Richard understood that the young man opposite was not referring to those bloody battle mages, but to the arcanists who focused on experiments, and even if they accepted the task, they were basically related to exterminating demons, demons, dark creatures, obtaining resources, exploring dangerous areas, etc., so he did not refute from the loopholes in this sentence, but said seriously: "They are doing blasphemous things every day, and they are full of lies in their dealings with the cultists." ” "Blasphemy means the study of the mysteries of things," Lucien said, pointing to the sky, "There are scriptures in the holy scriptures that cannot explore the world, and God has warned the world not to go near His realm."

Richard thought carefully and found that there was really no relevant content in the holy scriptures, only the Lord's refutation and warning to the hypocrites, the disturbing believers, the wicked, and the bloody, and there was no specific exploration of the world would blaspheme the majesty of the gods.

Lucien has also been a disciple of the god El for a while, and has read the teachings of Francis copying the Holy Book several times, and there are also books in the Soul Library to refer to, so he naturally knows very well that the relatively simple core book of the Holy Book has no content in this regard, after all, when the Holy Book was written, the Magic Council could not even find a shadow, and Douglas should have only reached the intermediate level, and he had not yet put forward the concept of exploring the world.

As a result, the Holy Scriptures only have a clear objection to evil human experimentation, believing that humans should not explore the forbidden areas of life, and that many Arcanists are simply not good at the necromantic realm.

After holding it for a few minutes, Richard said, "He said, 'Don't come near me, don't face me.'

This means that mortals are not allowed to come near the realm of the gods." ” Lucien underestimated the clergy's interpretation of the words, they could interpret different meanings from a single sentence at any time, and for a moment they didn't know how to guide the topic and move in their own predetermined direction.

Fortunately, Richard, the old man who had left the traces of time on his face, continued: "And the canon clearly states that no mortal shall attempt to step into the forbidden area of the gods. ” "The canon is not what God says, but it has been constantly revised by successive popes and some clergy, and it has an authoritative surname" Lucien relaxed a little when he heard this, this is his preset direction of conversation.

Richard frowned: "The Pope is the only earthly spokesman appointed by the Lord, and what he says represents the majesty of the Lord. ” "The Northern Church doesn't think so."

Lucien brought up the doctrine of the Northern Church, and thanked the Truth Church for the great schism and the different factions within it for providing "cannonballs", otherwise he would be a half-guy who wanted a real theologian like Richard to debate, it would be self-defeating, and Lucian's original intention was not to debate the doctrine, but to "help" Richard sort out his own thoughts, which is the content of psychological guidance in the Department of Illusion The refutation of the Northern Church has been the focus of research in the Southern Church for hundreds of years, and Richard, without exception, naturally quotes scriptures and refutes them freely, so that Lucian's head swells and waits intently for his "words" to appear.

"All lambs will be redeemed through baptism, prayer and service in the Church, through the guidance, deliverance and help of the shepherd, and the shepherd is my will," Richard skillfully uttered this passage establishing the papal identity.

Lucian's eyes lit up, and he immediately interrupted Richard's words: "Therefore, we cannot be justified by faith, no matter how devout our faith is, and how much we do what we do in accordance with the teachings of the Holy Scriptures, we must be redeemed through the church, through the clergy, and through the pope."

This is a question that Richard himself has contradicted for many years, and it has been revealed so nakedly that he does not know how to answer it for a while.

"God loves the world, but he loves the shepherds even more, God loves the world, but he is not willing to communicate directly with everyone's heart, when he prays, at home, in the church, the majesty of the gods is not the same as being given by divine magic, and it must be guided by the clergy" Lucien seized the opportunity and erupted into a series of questions.

Richard wanted to refute, but he remembered that many gifted priests and bishops had acquired magic by chance when they were praying with their parents when they were young, and when they were reading holy scriptures, without the guidance of the monastery and the clergy.

Lucien is now in a "fighting style" that hits and goes, and seeing that Richard's thoughts are more confused, his voice becomes louder and asks: "The Pope is the earthly spokesman of the Lord, so why has he repeatedly misinterpreted the Holy Scriptures and revised them again and again?"

"Since the gods do not allow mortals to explore the world, why should the theology be modified and the divine art modified according to the results of the arcanists' exploration of the world" This is the source of Richard's confusion in the past twenty or thirty years, and he began to advocate justification by faith, although he slandered that the revision of the canon is indispensable to the "credit" of your magicians, but he opened his mouth, but did not know how to refute it.

"Therefore, I think that in fact, the pope and the church are both hindering believers and God for the sake of their personal power desires, and whether or not they can obtain divine magic, they should all be equally equal in the presence of the Lord, and they will also fall into hell because what they do is not in accordance with the teachings of the holy scriptures."

"Those who demand cumbersome rituals, who demand that the church be worshipped, who demand that believers must go through the clergy, are hypocrites who try to hinder God's love for the world."

"Those who frequently revise the canon according to their own intentions and interpret the canon at will must be a latent devil."

Before Richard could react, Lucien drank one after another: "Fuck off the clergy who speak to believers about faith, faith, but blaspheme their faith themselves" "Farewell, the clergy who tell believers that God loves the world and that God loves the world, but try to monopolize the way of the mind to the gods."

"There should be no thought obstacle between the believer and the Lord, only faith and deeds that match the faith" Richard looked straight at Lucian, and he said everything he wanted to say but didn't dare to say, in more detail, more clearly, and more radically.

After Lucien finished speaking, he stared at Richard without speaking.

After a long time, Richard smiled bitterly: "The rights of the clergy should indeed be regulated, and the Lord has given them divine magic not to let them stand on the heads of believers, but to let them protect believers and guard their faith." ” Hearing this, Lucien immediately laughed.

When the fog cleared, Richard opened his eyes and found himself praying before the cross, sighing to himself: "Worthy of the fallen morning star" And outside the church, Afrith stared at two translucent amber eyes: "Lucian, you convinced him, I remember that many people have failed before" "It wasn't me who persuaded him, it was he who persuaded himself, and if he hadn't had a similar sprout in his own heart, even if he had fallen into a state of inconsistency under my linguistic trap, he would have quickly found a reason to interpret it, he was a theologian, I wasn't."

Lucien didn't feel a little smug, "You think that my superficial theological knowledge alone can win a debate against a theologian, I just instill an idea in him, if it resonates with him, then convince him, if not, I can't do it." ” Afrith said incomprehensibly: "Anyway, you are very good" "That's not really, it's mainly psychological guidance combined with understanding of the development of theology, in other words, among the lobbyists, I am the one who knows theology the most among those who are good at psychological guidance in the field of illusion, and I am also the best at psychological guidance among those who know theology, and both are indispensable."

Lucien chuckled, and most importantly, backed up by the Soul Library.

Richard's condition can be recommended to Natasha after observing and confirming it for a while, Lucien is finally a little more relaxed, and is just about to beckon Afrith to leave, when he suddenly feels a faint aura of danger.

There are strong men coming to the "church of salvation":