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Chapter 351: The Holy See Retreats


Zhu Yanxi said: "Such vulgar words and slang come from the mouth of the cabinet, and they are insulting to politeness."

Zhu Youxiao's face became very ugly, and Sun Chuanting lowered his head.

This sentence was said when he heard the emperor curse, so now Zhu Yanxi was actually talking about the emperor.

Sun Chuanting did not dare to laugh, so he could only lower his head and endure it.

Xu Guangqi said: "We are now discussing whether to treat European countries as equals or as vassal states.

Although what Sun Gebu said is slang, I feel that this is rough and unreasonable.

Some things look easy, but when they are actually done, they will be easy.

It’s more difficult.

I think it would be impossible for European countries to become vassal states of the Ming Dynasty.”

Zhu Yanxi said: "I haven't tried it, why do you say it's impossible?"

This was a bit unreasonable.

Sun Chuanting said quickly: "This matter is actually related to the Ministry of Rites.

Since Zhu Shangshu said so, why not let the Ministry of Rites send people to announce that they are paying tribute and let them become a vassal state of the Ming Dynasty."

Zhu Yanxi's expression changed.

If he insisted that this matter had nothing to do with the Ministry of Rites, he could barely make it.

But after all, he prided himself on being a gentleman, so he still couldn't say anything like throwing the blame to Honglu Temple, so he could only remain silent.

Xu Guangqi said: "When we consider the problem, we must look at it from the other side's point of view.

The European countries are thousands of miles away from us, so why should they succumb to the Ming Dynasty?

If one day they are willing to pay tribute, they should also see it When it comes to paying tribute, we don’t really want to become a vassal of the Ming Dynasty.”

"When colleagues do something, they should also consider the complexity of the matter.

Instead of thinking of blaming them first, think about whether it would be very difficult if it were done by yourself.

It’s very troublesome to just blame without careful consideration, which defeats the purpose of letting everyone make suggestions.”

Zhu Yanxi's face turned red, and she cupped her hands without saying anything.

Since he had let Xu Guangqi and Sun Chuanting quarrel, the other ministers did not dare to say any more.

Zhu Youxiao said: "Making European countries surrender to the Ming Dynasty cannot be achieved overnight.

We don't understand all aspects of Europe at all.

If we really go to war with European countries, the outcome is uncertain.

So I want to send people there Look, understand the political, economic, military aspects of Europe, and even that is impossible without treating them as equal partners.”

The ministers had no choice but to agree to treat them as equal countries for the time being.

This temporary meaning means that if there is an opportunity, European countries should still be included in the tributary system.

Zhu Youxiao did not oppose the officials in this regard, because even if he wanted to occupy Europe, it would be a long, long time later.

Anyway, he was not interested in occupying Europe.

Ming Dynasty only had Asia.

After the matter was finalized, it was time to discuss the candidate for the envoy.

There was no one in Honglu Temple who knew European languages, so on the recommendation of Xu Guangqi, Wang Zheng became Zuo Shaoqing of Honglu Temple and led a group of translation schools.

A group of students went to Europe.

Of course, before that, Jinyiwei had recruited all the students who went to Europe into Jinyiwei Xiaoqi.

The Ming Dynasty mission was warmly welcomed in Portugal.

The Portuguese are the country with the best relationship with the Ming Dynasty in Asia.

Now most of Macau are Portuguese businessmen, and the Portuguese even handed over Goa and other places in India to the Ming Dynasty.

The current relationship between the two parties can be said to be in the honeymoon period.

History has changed slightly here.

The war between the Ming Dynasty and the Spanish in Asia caused certain losses to Spanish power.

The Portuguese took this opportunity to launch a restoration movement, and finally gained victory in the fifteenth year of the Apocalypse.

Independence was several years ahead of schedule compared to the original history.

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The Ming envoy was received by the King of Portugal.

Wang Zheng asked the Portuguese King to allow Ming students to study here.

The king generously agreed to Wang Zheng's request and was willing to pay all the expenses for the five students staying in Portugal and grant them Portugal.

As a foreigner, he entered a school in Lisbon to study.

After a short stay, the Ming Dynasty delegation entered the Mediterranean and came to the Holy See.

With the help of the accompanying missionaries, Wang Zheng was received by the Pope as a believer.

He handed a letter written by Zhu Youxiao to the Pope.

In his letter, Zhu Youxiao expressed his respect for the Pope with a humble attitude and asked the Holy See to send more missionaries to the Ming Dynasty for missionary work, which made the Pope very happy.

However, Zhu Youxiao also proposed that because the situation in the Ming Dynasty was different, certain Catholic doctrines needed to be modified to a certain extent.

For example, the necessity of worshiping ancestors and Confucius should be fully allowed and fixed in writing.

He also requested that the clergy of the Ming Dynasty be allowed to appoint priests at all levels on their own.

Of course, the appointment power of cardinals still rests with the pope.

Zhu Youxiao requested that Wang Zheng be made a cardinal and become the most senior priest of the Ming Dynasty diocese.

The Pope used the greatest willpower to restrain himself and did not tear up the letter, which was written in Chinese and Latin, on the spot.

The matter of worshiping ancestors and Confucius has been debated for a long time, and in the end the Holy See acquiesced, so there is no problem with this.

However, Zhu Youxiao said that the power of appointing cardinals was in the hands of the pope, but he directly demanded that Wang Zheng be made a cardinal.

His meaning was obvious.

The pope was just a seal, and it was the seal that Ming Dynasty said he should seal.

When could the emperor of a country be able to dictate the affairs of the Holy See, and this emperor was not a believer?

If it is allowed to develop, the Catholic Church in the Ming Dynasty will no longer be under the control of the Holy See.

This is unacceptable.

But this country has a population of 100 million, and most of them do not have a firm religion.

This is a great temptation to promote Catholicism.

More importantly, the emperor of this country has too much power.

It can be said that no one can restrain him.

If he really tears up this letter, it can be foreseen that the spread of Catholicism in this big eastern country will be forcibly stopped.

This This is definitely not a situation the Pope wants to see.

He must be cautious and not be too emotional.

So the Pope talked gently with Wang Zheng for a long time, and then convened a meeting of the upper echelons of the Holy See to discuss the letter from the Ming Emperor.

As expected, the matter of worshiping ancestors and Confucius did not anger the bishops, but they could appoint clergy themselves, and the forced request to make Wang Zheng a cardinal was unanimously opposed by everyone.

Christianity has gone through many schisms, and the bishops don't want to see that happen again.

However, the pope's proposal of 10 million potential believers did attract the bishops.

The reports of previous missionaries were very clear.

The emperor of the Ming Dynasty did not obviously welcome or resist the mission.

On the contrary, many officials were opposed.

The Nanjing Mission Case is an example.

The Emperor of Ming Dynasty had complete control over the country, which was unmatched by monarchs in European countries.

If the Emperor of Ming Dynasty was turned against him, there would be no way for Christianity to spread in Ming Dynasty.

After two days of discussion, the Holy See finally gave in.

It was agreed that the Ming Dynasty could appoint clergy, but the appointment power of cardinals could only be in the hands of the pope.

As for Wang Zheng, because he was a devout believer in the Ming Dynasty and was a fifth-rank official of the Ming Dynasty, the Pope held his nose and appointed him as a cardinal of the Ming Dynasty

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