"Ma Zhenxi is sure that Lu Bu can persuade Li Su."
Liu Xie frowned and looked at Ma Chao's weird sitting posture.
Although he was confused, he still refrained from asking and asked this question instead.
"Don't worry, Your Majesty.
It's still comfortable to sit down."
Ma Chao sat down on the wicker chair specially prepared for him.
After shaking it twice, he continued: "Then Li Su, like Lu Bu, has long been interested in Dong Zhuo.
What's more, he has a strong desire for power and has long been dissatisfied with Dong Zhuo's refusal to promote him to official positions."
"So, Dong Zhuo's men are all here."
Liu Xie was overjoyed and suddenly asked Ma Chao.
Ma Chao, on the other hand, curled his lips and sneered at Liu Xie's childish idea: It would be good if Dong Zhuo's men could produce two top players, Lu Bu and Li Su.
In fact, except for Lu Bu and Li Su, Dong Zhuo's men were quite loyal to Dong Zhuo.
Firstly, these people are all from Xiliang, and their lives, fortunes, and honors have long been tied to Dong Zhuo.
They will both lose and prosper; secondly, excluding the factor of Fatty Dong’s cruelty, it is still very interesting for him to be a leader. .
Although he did not give his subordinates great official positions, there were many substantial rewards.
Those subordinates were not dissatisfied.
Only Lu Bu and Li Su were from Bingzhou, and they were at odds with Dong Zhuo's veteran subordinates.
And Dong Zhuo also defended and used it, very ineffectively, which made these two unwilling people rebel.
Xu Rong from Liaodong had no intention of rebelling.
Therefore, instead of thinking about these irrelevant things, it is more meaningful to think about when your own backyard will be clean: Yes, after coming out of the barracks, Ma Chao heard from Xiao Tian that Cai Yan and Liu Yue had not returned yet, so he did not Dare to go back to your home.
Coupled with the two edicts, Ma Chao felt angry, so he came to Liu Xie to temporarily avoid the limelight.
By the way, let's take a look at what tricks this guy Liu Xie is playing.
As soon as he spoke to Liu Xie, Ma Chao no longer had that intention.
Because he discovered that although Liu Xie was very scheming.
But when it comes to doing things, there are still some childish paranoia and deficiencies.
For example, that ridiculous idea just now.
This is clear evidence.
From this, maybe the matter about the two edicts was that Shi Sunrui came here to fool him, and Liu Xie simply stamped his private seal.
The jade seal is still in Sun Ce's hands, so Liu Xie can only stamp his private seal, which is also possible.
However, fortunately, Liu Xie's talent is really smart.
There was no need for Ma Chao to explain, he quickly figured out the key.
However, he still didn't quite understand Li Su's rebellion.
He couldn't help but ask: "Why is Ma Zhenxi so sure that Li Su will join us?"
Ma Chao glanced at Liu Xie and replied without any look of a courtier: "Because he is very smart, but because of his smartness, he is destined to join us."
"Oh" Liu Xie was very surprised by Ma Chao's answer and asked, "What do you mean by this?"
"Let's imagine it.
If I were Li Su and suddenly received an invitation from Lu Bu and came to Situ's Mansion.
I would definitely have doubts after listening to Lu Bu's various plans.
Because he had no idea how many people and powers were involved in this plan.
How big is it?"
Ma Chao said here.
He couldn't help but sneered, not knowing what he was laughing at.
"Yes, when he saw that Master Situ, who was highly appreciated by Dong Zhuo, was the mastermind, and that Lu Bu, who was like father and son to Dong Zhuo, had joined in, he would naturally think that this action was the general trend."
But Liu Xie understood Ma Chao's smile, and then Ma Chao words said.
"Yes, cleverness can lead to mistakes.
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This is the truth.
Even if I beat him to death, I would never have thought that the whole plan was actually just an old man Wang Yun with a few men and Lu Bu.
This guy Li Su is just a faggot.
If you follow the general trend, you will naturally betray Dong Zhuo," Ma Chao said at the end, smacking his lips to express his condolences to Comrade Li Su.
"Who said Wang Yun was the only one behind this plan?
If it hadn't been the general trend, would Ma Zhenxi and I still be involved in it?"
Liu Xie said with a smile, expressing that he disagreed with Ma Chao's view.
Ma Chao was stunned for a moment, then smiled.
I think what Liu Xie said makes sense, but he still disagrees a little: "We hide behind the scenes, and history will never record our names."
Speaking of this, Ma Chao suddenly felt a trance: he had come to Chang'an in order to have a stable development period in Yongzhou and because of his father's death.
But I never thought that after experiencing all kinds of incidents, I would silently withdraw from Chang'an again.
I really don't know what all this is for.
They drove straight into Chang'an, held the emperor hostage, and ordered the princes to Ma Chao had indeed thought this way, but after entering Chang'an, he realized that this politics was currently not something he could handle.
A guy like Dong Zhuo, who had no stable foundation and only relied on trickery to steal the power of the Han Dynasty.
What we get in the end is not only anger and resentment, but also everyone's rebellion.
As for using the emperor to control the princes, that is even more ridiculous: the world only saw Cao Cao holding the emperor to control the princes, and finally unified the north and shocked the world.
But I never thought that Dong Zhuo was actually the first person to take advantage of the emperor to control the princes.
Both of them did this, so why did they end up so different?
Because the fundamental reason is that Dong Zhuo and Cao Cao chose different timings.
When Dong Zhuo took the emperor to order the princes, it was a time when the Han Dynasty was about to be destroyed but not yet destroyed.
Everyone in the world held the slogan of hoeing out treacherous ministers and clearing the emperor's side, and killed Fatty Dong to gain a lot of credit and fame.
At that time, Cao Cao welcomed Returning to the emperor, it was the time when the Han Dynasty had gone through Dong Zhuo's disaster and Li Jue and Guo Si's rebellion in Chang'an, and it had ceased to exist in name only.
In that case, Cao Cao had already grasped the opportunity when the loyalty of the emperor and his ministers was at its weakest; at that time, holding the emperor hostage was truly a treasure, not a double-edged sword.
Why didn't Yuan Shao kidnap the emperor?
He was so stupid and indifferent because his son was seriously ill.
As a politician, Ma Chao knew how cold-blooded they were.
Yuan Shao did not want to hold the emperor hostage because he did not need to hold him hostage at all.
His reputation was enough to offset the impact of the emperor of the Han Dynasty.
He even wanted to establish Liu Yu as emperor in Jizhou to fight against the Eastern Han Dynasty court.
Therefore, Ma Chao would not be foolish enough to imitate Dong Zhuo and make wedding clothes for others.
What's more, this Liu Xie is nothing like the silly boy recorded in history.
He is extreme, scheming and vicious when he is young.
When he grows up, he will be even more unpredictable.
Ma Chao did not want to face troubles such as palace coups and assassinations by political opponents all day long in the future, and would rather develop in a step-by-step manner.
What's more, Chang'an will usher in the rebellion of Li Jue and Guo Si, as well as an unprecedented locust plague.
And these are things that Ma Chao currently dare not control.
Therefore, Ma Chao can only choose to come quietly and leave quietly, get a lot of followers, fame, and more real things, and then wait and wait until Chang'an has ceased civil strife and is riddled with holes, and then take over.
Chang'an "Ma Zhenxi Ma Zhenxi" Liu Xie shook his little hand, calling Ma Chao back to reality from his meditation, and then suddenly asked: "How about this?"
"What?"
Ma Chao was stunned.
He had been thinking a lot just now.
How could he know what Liu Xie said?
If it were an ordinary minister, this behavior would have been a serious crime of contempt for the imperial power.
However, Liu Xie was not bothered at all, and instead said again: "I said that after the Dong thieves are killed, I will be in charge of the government, and you will be my relative.
Internal emphasis is on substance, external towns are rebellious, light corvee and low taxes, rest and support the people, and rebuild The splendor of the Han Dynasty, good” After Ma Chao heard this, he looked blankly at Liu Xie's innocent face, wondering when Liu Xie had such an idea.
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As he was well aware of the historical trend, he felt an urge not to disappoint Liu Xie.
I want to say yes, but I don’t know where to start.
Finally, after pondering for a moment, he said leisurely: "If your majesty can keep Chang'an peaceful for one year in the future, I am willing to be loyal to the Han Dynasty, let the people of the world live in peace and prosperity as soon as possible, and regain the glory of the Han Dynasty.
But if your majesty fails to fulfill this promise, then I will have to use my own Ways to take responsibility for the common people and the country”: