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Chapter 511: Governing the People First and Governing the Country Later


Meng Ke listened to Zhuangzi for a while, roughly understood what Zhuangzi meant, and interrupted: "I don't dare to agree with what you said, I told you that you have not studied our Confucianism seriously, completely and systematically, and you still don't understand our Confucianism You just said that we should manage the country and the people from the perspective and standpoint of people, can I tell you clearly, we Confucians, and we Confucians, say that if we want to be righteous, we must first correct ourselves, and we must first pay attention to our own moral behavior and cultivate our own moral thoughts.

I don't think I need to say more about this, our teacher Confucius, he is a good example for us.

I dare to say that Confucius will become the master of all eternity.

We Confucians say that only by cultivating our own moral character well and becoming an example for the world can we be qualified to judge others.

Therefore, Confucianism also looks at problems from the perspective and position of individual people, and manages the country and the people from this perspective and standpoint.

Therefore, Confucianism requires everyone in the world to behave like Confucius, including ourselves."

Before Meng Ke's words were finished, Tian Gongzi looked at Zhuangzi and laughed.

I thought: Zhuangzi admit defeat, how can you still quibble, you said that you start to govern from individual people, and Confucianism also starts from individual people, how can you still quibble When Rong'er heard this, she was anxious for Brother Zhuang again1 When Yang Qing'er heard this, she couldn't think of a reason to refute it for a while.

In desperation, she glared at Meng Ke, wanting to use threats to solve the problem.

The guards behind Meng Ke also looked at Zhuangzi one by one, and they couldn't guess how Zhuangzi would argue.

Zhuangzi listened, smiled slightly, and disagreed.

He nodded at Meng Ke and said with a smile: "The fundamental mistakes of Confucianism have been exposed, Meng Ke, don't you feel it?"

"What's wrong, what's wrong," Meng Ke said puzzled.

Tian Gongzi also asked: "Where is there a mistake or a fundamental mistake?"

Zhuangzi smiled again and said, "Confucianism has always treated others from the perspective of a manager.

Confucianism's self-restraint is commendable.

Especially the Confucian Confucius, he did just that.

I also agree that he will be a model for all generations, and he will be admired by all generations and become an example for all generations to learn.

But as a human being, I think it's too inflexible, and sticking to one's beliefs is a good moral character, and we need to.

But we need it more to survive Man does not live to hold on to his beliefs, but to live for the sake of living.

How can we change our lifestyles and codes of conduct without violating our beliefs?

Adaptation, adaptation to survival, life, without violating their own beliefs, pursuits, is a person who knows how to live and survive.

And blindly clinging to a certain belief is too old-fashioned and will not be flexible.

The mountain can't come, and I can go to the other side of the mountain.

As for the fundamental error of Confucianism, I will now talk about it The fundamental mistake of Confucianism lies in demanding and restraining others from the perspective and standpoint of a manager and a wise man.

First of all, it must be explained that people are equal, and there is not much difference between us in terms of IQ, and each has its own strengths.

And one of the fundamental mistakes made by Confucianism is that he is a manager, he is a wise man, he is smarter than others, others are fools, and Confucianism needs to be educated.

From the perspective of people, from a standpoint, from an equal point of view, from a standpoint, you can preach your point of view to others, educate others, as for whether others accept it or not, that's another matter.

And you blindly want others to accept it, and ask everyone in the world to behave like Confucius and stick to your own beliefs, this is a mistake.

This is the fundamental mistake of Confucianism, imposing one's own views and ideas on others, and imposing others to accept them, rather than others voluntarily accepting them Our Taoists talk about freedom, self-nature, and equality, and we Taoists also preach and preach our own ideas to the world, but we do not force others to accept them.

Whether you listen or not is up to you, you can't listen, there are two possibilities, one is that what I said did not let you understand.

Two, you can't accept my point of view As Taoists, for the first case, we can preach to them again.

For the second type of person, there are several ways we take.

One is to stay away from them, and not associate with them; Second, drive them away and draw a clear line.

If the three sides are entangled, they will treat them as enemies and destroy them.

What is the extinction, which is to kill them.

But you, Confucianism, are like the mud and the mud to combine individuals into a whole, into a country.

Then we will manage it from the perspective and position of the state.

Think about it: can you combine them into a whole, a country?

We Taoists manage the country, first manage the individual people, educate the individual people, and accept them freely.

Those who are willing to accept the ideas of Taoist doctrine, stay, and we live together.

Those who do not want to accept the ideas of Taoist doctrine can leave our country.

Or we are the voices of chickens and dogs, and we don't get along with each other.

And then the individual people are grouped into families, clans, groups, and nations.

In other words, first break it into parts, wait until everyone understands life, accept the Taoist doctrine and ideas, and then combine them.

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And you Confucianists don't care about the three, seven, twenty-one, first, first forcibly combine all people, combine them into one country, and then, as a wise man, govern others.

It seems that all of you officials in the world are smarter than others, not officials, not Confucians, all fools" Zhuangzi wanted to continue, but Meng Ke and Tian Gongzi couldn't listen to it.

Almost at the same time, the two interrupted Zhuangzi's tirade.

"I didn't understand," Tian Gongzi said.

Meng Ke also said: "I didn't understand what you said, you still didn't talk about the point, where is the fundamental mistake of our Confucianism?"

Zhuangzi's face changed, shook his head, and said: "The fundamental mistake of your Confucians is to regard yourself as a wise man and a manager, you are smarter than others, and everyone in the world is a fool.

Everyone in the world needs you to manage, and everyone in the world needs you to educate.

You Confucianists manage the country and the people from this angle and standpoint. ” "You, you, you" Meng Ke couldn't stand it a little, and pointed at Zhuangzi with his finger.

But for a moment, he was so angry that he couldn't speak.

"However," Zhuangzi's face changed again, and he changed his face to a sympathetic smile, and said: "Your original intention of Confucianism is good, and the starting point is good, especially if you strictly follow the requirements of Confucianism to behave and do things, which is commendable."

But your Confucian theories are the easiest to exploit by kings and certain people with ulterior motives.

Once it is used by others, the set of theories of your Confucianism will become a shackle that binds you and the people.

Therefore, your Confucian theory is not advisable and you have made a fundamental mistake.

It is not from the perspective and position of people to manage people and the country.

So what is the perspective and position of people?

Today, I'm Zhuang Zhoubucai, so I'll tell you about it":