Meng Ke came to his senses completely, sat up straight, first glanced at Tian Gongzi, and nodded. looked at Zhuangzi again, and then looked at Rong'er and Yang Qing'er.
"What you said about the lacquer garden is just your words, not credible."
Meng Ke said: "I only believe that our Confucianism uses state power as a means to popularize and educate the foolish people, but we can't achieve much effect, how can you Taoists adopt the method of individual education to achieve the effect you said."
So I don't believe the situation of the lacquer garden you said.
As for how the Qiyuan people killed the 30,000 Korean army, there must be a reason.
One of the reasons is that it is conceivable that the people of Qiyuan are barbaric and not afraid of death.
It is said that the people of Qin are also like that, barbarism is not afraid of death.
Wei and the Three Jin Alliances have been attacking Qin for so many years, but they have not been able to destroy Qin because the people of Qin are not afraid of death."
"That's it," Tian Gongzi said in time.
Zhuangzi glanced at Tian Gongzi and then looked at Rong'er, which means: Rong'er, you can clearly see that this Tian Gongzi who did not pursue you is so virtuous Rong'er seemed to understand Brother Zhuang's hint and nodded towards Brother Zhuang.
"I take the lacquer garden as an example, and you don't believe it, then I can't help it, I can't convince you more forcefully for a while, but this is temporary, and when the news of the lacquer garden spreads all over the world, you will understand that I am not lying.
But that will be for later, and it will not solve today's debate.
There are no examples, no more persuasiveness, but that doesn't mean the debate is over.
I want to say that you Confucians believe that using the power of the state to popularize and educate the people is very effective on the surface, but it will not have much effect One of the main reasons for this is that your Confucian theory has made a fundamental mistake.
Others are forced by the oppression of power, and they can accept it on the surface, but behind the scenes they do not follow it.
That is, to create a false behavior of the masses of the people on the surface and behind the scenes.
Confucianism is well-intentioned, but this kind of good intentions is most easily exploited by some people.
Confucianism teaches others to follow the Zhou etiquette, to have a law in everything, and to have a code of conduct in everything.
But what will be the result?
Historical facts tell us that as a result, the good intentions of Confucianism were exploited.
Confucianism has educated the people through state power, and the people have abided by the law and followed the rituals.
In the beginning, the people benefited, and it was effective.
But after a long time, the evils became apparent, and the people were bound by the law and the number of rites.
And those who used Confucianism to educate the masses of the people are above the people.
Use this law today, and bind the people tomorrow with that law.
If the people do not comply, it is against the law and should be punished.
If you obey it, you will be restrained again, and your survival will be seriously affected.
In fact, survival is the law, and all laws are written around survival.
Therefore, all the laws that are not conducive to the survival of the masses of the people, no matter how much you force them, no one else will obey them.
Therefore, there are policies and countermeasures.
Forced by the constraints of the law and etiquette, in order to survive, people have to obey the law on the surface and be obedient and good citizens.
And behind the scenes, he still goes his own way, taking advantage of the loopholes of the law.
Only in this way can they survive better.
Therefore, the Confucian set of theories is only good-looking on the surface, but in fact the useless theories are not only useless, but also harmful to the people.
But Confucian theories have a certain temptation.
Confucianism first depicted a beautiful future world, which people who did not know the truth aspired to.
Think that Confucianism is good, so to pursue.
The power holders believe that using the Confucian theory and method can quickly educate the people, so that the people can become good citizens and obedient to the people.
Therefore, it is also a strong support for everyone in the world to become good citizens and obedient people, and it is better to be foolish, and it will be much easier to manage.
Isn't it And those who see the pros and cons also take advantage of this Confucian method to exploit the loopholes of the law and override others."
"Enough" Tian Gongzi couldn't listen anymore and shouted.
"Isn't what I'm saying the truth?"
asked Zhuangzi.
Meng Ke thought for a while and said: "There is such a situation you said, but as long as our king comprehensively promotes Confucianism, promotes benevolence and righteousness, and governs the country with benevolence, this kind of drawback will not exist, and we can avoid it We can restrain officials through the perfection of the law and make officials abide by the law."
We can choose virtuous people to be officials."
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"Stop, stop," Zhuangzi said with his hand stretched out to stop.
Then he said, "I have pointed out the evils of your Confucianism, and you have expressed your fantasies, and you are counting on the king to govern the country with benevolence.
And you expect to select virtuous men to be officials.
So what about the hereditary aristocracy, how do they live if they are not officials and do not inherit official positions The biggest shortcoming and the biggest mistake of your Confucianism is here, how you always expect others to always fantasize about a better future, and you don't admit that there is something wrong with your own theory, you are fooling people No matter how beautiful the future world you depict, people are most concerned about whether they can survive to that day, whether they can live today, how to live tomorrow, and how to live tomorrow, the current predicament cannot be solved, and no matter how well you depict the future, others will not believe it.
Live in the moment, live in the present.
Only when people have no worries about food and clothing, will they fantasize about a better future.
Planning one's life is needed, but solving the practical problems in front of you is the most urgent place.
Living in the real world is the life that people really feel and enjoy.
And no matter how beautiful the future is, it will be like a dream after all.
We Taoists believe that don't expect others to rely on themselves, but believe in themselves, and only themselves are the most credible.
If a person doesn't even believe in himself, then he still mixes yarn The Taoist approach to education is not to teach others how to expect from others and how to cooperate with others.
It's about teaching others to be self-reliant.
Learn to be self-reliant first, and then when we are unable to solve problems on our own, we will understand the importance of cooperation and will voluntarily cooperate with others.
Only when both sides cooperate voluntarily can there be cohesion.
Confucianism, on the other hand, relied on power to teach others and forcibly inculcate others with the idea and spirit of cooperation, but it did not make it clear that people really understood the meaning of cooperation, why should we cooperate when others do not cooperate What should I do when most people do not cooperate when the world is chaotic Don't teach others to learn from Confucius and stick to their own beliefs, but teach others how to survive.
Teaching others how to survive is the solution to practical problems, and teaching others to hold fast to their faith like saints is to hope for the future but not to solve practical problems.
Only when each of us understands the truth of life, the importance of cooperation, and who to cooperate with can be truly cooperative, cooperation can be regarded as cooperation.
There is only power if you work together voluntarily Instead of forcing cooperation, forcing everyone to hope for the future and stick to their beliefs.
Then in the form of the law, how and how to force others to cooperate, others will only cope, perfunctory.
It is useless for you to ask me to cooperate with this and cooperate with that, to believe in this person to believe in that person to believe in society.
We are only willing to cooperate when we feel that cooperation is beneficial to our survival.
When others find out that cooperation is just a cover, cooperation is only conducive to the survival of others, and only some people get benefits from it, I am just a devotee, who is willing to cooperate" "The Tao is not the same" Meng Ke listened, couldn't listen anymore, and muttered to himself on the side.
Tian Gongzi said on the side: "I didn't understand, I didn't understand at all, I just treated him as nonsense, I dozed off, you two continue to debate, I doze off for a while." ” Saying that, this Tian Gongzi really lowered his head, closed his eyes, and fell asleep.
Zhuangzi also ignored Tian Gongzi, he already knew that this Tian Gongzi was so virtuous.
"Just now, I only talked about cooperation and Confucianism, but I forgot about one of the most fundamental issues."
Everyone looked at Zhuangzi and thought to themselves: why did Zhuangzi have another "most fundamental" problem, and why did he have so many "most fundamental" problems Zhuangzi continued: "Why do we cooperate with each other, why do we form a country with each other, this is the most fundamental question, Taoism says: we cooperate to survive better, to put it bluntly, we are to survive, if everyone is this idea, everything will be solved."
Why Confucian theories cannot be implemented is because under the management of Confucian theories and ideas, only some people benefit from the cooperation of everyone.
Those who cooperate become devotees, and those who do not cooperate and do not devote become beneficiaries.
Those who take advantage of the law, those who are above the law, will always be the ones who live the most nourishing life.
Why can they live a good life under the ideological theory of Taoism, because Taoism is the theory of survival, Taoism is reborn, Taoists do not trust others easily, only when they feel that their own survival is beneficial to them, they believe in others and believe in everything":