"During the Chongzhen period, the society collapsed, the officers and soldiers were not as good as the thieves, and these officers and soldiers who were not as good as the thieves descended to the Manchu Qing Dynasty, and all kinds of atrocities in various places were inevitable."
Zheng Zhonglei is very rational in that analysis, in his opinion, the Manchu slaughter is not fake, but most of the implementers are Han soldiers, so it is biased to count all the accounts on the Manchurians, and it is not the proper attitude of governing history.
If you really want to liquidate the culprits, it should be to liquidate the Ming army that surrendered to the Qing Dynasty, not the Manchurians.
"The reason why those soldiers committed the massacre is not to cover up their evil deeds of murder and robbery.
Therefore, I never thought that it was the Manchurians who ordered the massacre of the city, which was unwise.
After this Manchurian entered the customs, it respected Confucianism and was like another Yuan Dynasty.
Let me ask you, since ancient times, which regime dared to order the slaughter of the city so blatantly, could it be that they want to cut themselves off from China, and I will say it objectively, the Manchurians do not have the bad habit of slaughtering the city, and the people who slaughtered the city are all Han troops, so we cannot wantonly slander them because they are our enemies. ” "Listening to the tone of Lord Zheng, it seems that he has a good impression of the Manchu Qing Dynasty" Qi Guangsha, the director of the Ministry of Industry and a native of Anhui Province who was awarded the rank of junior in Dingwu Enke the year before last, was amused by what Zheng Zhonglei said and couldn't help but ridicule him.
Zheng Zhonglei couldn't help but be nervous when he said this, he didn't want people to misunderstand that he had a sense of closeness to the Manchus, so he hurriedly said: "I just hope that everyone will look at the Manchu massacre fairly and objectively, not that they have any good feelings about the Manchus.
There are not a few people who have been martyred in the family, so how can I have a good impression of the Manchu Qing, Lord Qi can't talk nonsense. ” "Is it?"
Qi Guangsha said coldly: "Then why did Lord Zheng go to the imperial examination of the Manchu Qing Dynasty earlier, it stands to reason that there is a family hatred and hatred of the country, why should Lord Zheng not go to the imperial examination of the Manchu Dynasty, it is not good, if you don't go to the remnants, you can not go out of the township." ” This incident made Zheng Zhonglei a little annoyed and angry, and snorted slightly: "Lord Qi, what we are discussing is how to govern history, and what does it have to do with whether I take the Manchu imperial examination or not."
If you conclude that Zheng has a good impression of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, then most of the people present will not be said by you?"
There were indeed a considerable number of officials present who had passed the Manchu imperial examination, and Zheng Zhonglei pulled them in, which undoubtedly put them in danger, so they accused Qi Guangsha of being messing around.
"Lord Qi, everyone is an official of the same dynasty, please pay attention to your words, don't spoil the harmony between colleagues."
The imperial historian who supported Zheng Zhonglei before was also disgusted with Qi Guangsha, and when he saw so many people on their side, he couldn't help but speak a little heavier.
Qi Guangsha frowned slightly, immediately relaxed, chuckled, and said, "Okay, since everyone is talking about governing history, then with all due respect, what Lord Zheng said just now is biased."
As far as I know, when the old slave slaughtered three million Han people in Liaodong, I am afraid that there were not so many troops to do evil for him, so it can be seen that the massacre of the city in Manchuria has long been commonplace, and it is not objective to blame it on the surrender of the army to cover up the robbery. ” "Outside the customs is outside the customs, how can it be equated with things inside the customs" that Yushi disagreed.
"Isn't the people outside the gate my Ming people?"
Qi Guangsha also became angry, he never thought that in the eyes of this imperial historian, the people of the Ming Dynasty outside the gate were not worth mentioning.
The imperial historian realized that he had lost his words, so he said: "I'm not saying that the people outside the gate are not my Ming people, but on a case-by-case basis, how many places in the two capitals and eighteen provinces were directly slaughtered by the Manchurians, I think those who surrendered to the army did a lot more, so these things have little to do with the Manchurians."
I'm inclined to look at it differently. ” "I'm afraid it may not be."
An official of Dali Temple suddenly spoke: "Yangzhou City was ordered to be slaughtered by Duoduo, Prince Yu of the Manchu Qing Dynasty, Sichuan was slaughtered by Haoge directly under the command of the Manchu soldiers, and the Duanzhong Prince Boluo of the Qing Dynasty, Prince Mandahai of Heshuo and others carried out large-scale massacres in Fenzhou, Zezhou and other places in Shanxi.
Dolgon ordered the slaughter of cities in Tongguan, Jinan, and Datong, and all of these places were directly attacked by Manchu soldiers, so how can it be said that the Manchurians did not have the bad habit of slaughtering cities?"
"South of the Yangtze River, there are not a few people who are directly slaughtered by the Manchu soldiers, it is this Nanchang City, isn't it also the Manchu Qing Dynasty's Belle Tan Tai who led the Manchu soldiers from the north to break the city, so how can this culprit have nothing to do with the Manchurians, this is incomprehensible."
Qi Guangsha looked at Zheng Zhonglei and the others with a dissatisfied expression.
Zheng Zhonglei was speechless for a while, but an official behind him said: "There are few soldiers, no matter how you kill, you can't kill hundreds of millions of people, and the biggest evil is the surrender of the army and those thieves."
You can't deny that."
"Bandits" Qi Guangsha laughed angrily: "Then may I ask this lord, before Jiashen, these thieves who surrendered to the army could have massacre cities in various parts of my Ming Dynasty, and slaughtered hundreds of thousands, or even millions of people at a time, why did they surrender to the Manchurians, this kind of thing has been repeated."
"This" That official is not a person without conscience, and he didn't have time to think about it just now, but now that he thinks about it, I'm afraid that this matter is really the involvement of the Manchurians.
Because during the Chongzhen period, even if the military discipline of the officers and soldiers was not good, there were good killings and meritorious deeds, such as Zuo Liangyu, Liu Zeqing and others once slaughtered tens of thousands of people and pretended to be military merits, and they often plundered the army, but there are really no Yangzhou, Nanchang, Jiangyin, Jiaxing, Datong, Fuzhou, Chaozhou, Guangzhou, Sichuan, which killed millions at a time, and the entire city was extinct.
The large-scale massacre of the city was still a matter after these former Ming troops and thieves surrendered to the Qing army.
Therefore, whether the Manchurians were the culprits of the massacre should be a sure thing, and it should not be whitewashed.
The official of Dali Temple, who helped Qi Guangsha speak, said: "I have never heard that the master will bite people if he is a lackey without giving an order.
Moreover, every time the Qing army slaughtered the city, most of the looting proceeds were obtained by the Manchu soldiers, so it is not difficult to see that the fact of the massacre was done by the Manchurians, and they were not the culprits, who were the culprits."
Many officials who previously thought that Zheng Zhonglei and others were reasonable in their analysis also nodded at this time, agreeing with what this Qi Guangsha and this Dali Temple official said.
I think that those Qing who surrendered their troops were precisely because they were afraid of the Manchu army, so without the consent of the Manchurians, how could they dare to do their own thing, unless they didn't want to live.
Outside the crowd, a young voice sounded, "Actually, you have all forgotten the fact that it is not that the Manchurians do not want to slaughter the city directly, but because they have few people and cannot kill them, so they are driven to surrender to the army and slaughter the city, so that they can return with a full load."
In the final analysis, this Manchu Qing Dynasty is not a Chinese person, and in his bones, he only regards my China as a place for hunting, robbery and wealth, so that he can wantonly slaughter cities and beasts in my Ming Dynasty. ” The one who spoke was Enke Tanhua Wang Ziwen, a native of Jiujiang, and a current member of the Ministry of Works.
In addition to Wang Ziwen, several officials openly refuted the "objective" analysis of Zheng Zhonglei and others, and even pointed out that Zheng Zhonglei and others were ill-intentioned, called fairness, and in fact were acting for the culprit.
This made Zheng Zhonglei and the imperial historian feel panicked, but fortunately, all the officials present were the officials of the six ministries and nine qings, and there was no pro-army fanzi, otherwise God knows what would happen.
Although these officials are arguing fiercely now, they are essentially in the same boat, otherwise they would not have been "escorted" by pro-military forces to visit Holocaust memorials.
Some people have contributed a lot to the previous trend of "looking back".
"Having said so much, what if the Manchurians did it, what if they didn't do it, things always pass, do we really have to keep these things in mind, really think like them, and go to the north to slaughter them all in the future" The imperial historian of the Metropolitan Procuratorate was indignant, thinking that Qi Guangsha had read all their books into the dog's stomach, and the sage said "benevolence, righteousness, etiquette, wisdom and filial piety", and the word "benevolence and righteousness" were forgotten by them.
What is China, benevolence and righteousness is, to subdue the Quartet with virtue and make the four Yi return to their hearts, isn't it the road of saints?
"A dog bites a person, can a person still learn to bite back like a dog, if it is really like this, what is the difference between this person and a dog" Zheng Zhonglei was stubborn.
"We can not bite back, but we can beat this dog to death with a stick.
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Only in this way can this dog know what happened to those who committed my Huaxia.
Qi Guangsha said coldly.
Tanhua Prince Wen squeezed through the front, came to Zheng Zhonglei, glanced at them, and then said slowly: "According to me, how can the Manchurians not be dogs, what can they do, why can't we do it."
I have already decided, when I return to the southern capital, I will write to the imperial court, asking the king of Qi to wave the northern expedition, and concoct him in Manchuria, old and young, in the same way, so as to shock the four yi."
Others may still be in awe of Tanhua, but Zheng Zhonglei is in the middle of the matter and is the dignitary of the Taoist official, so he didn't make a fuss, snorted, and said: "Tanhualang, I read poetry and books to the fullest, in order to govern the country through the world, not to be a beast." ” "It's useless to talk too much, Brother Zheng, let's go, they want to be beasts, and let them do it, we're good people."
It is my generation to establish a heart for heaven and earth, to establish a life for the people, to continue to learn for the saints, and to open peace for all generations."
Seeing that the number of officials on their side was getting smaller and smaller, the imperial historian of the Metropolitan Procuratorate pulled Zheng Zhonglei out of here.
"Bah, these people are also worthy of opening peace for all generations" Looking at the figures of Zheng Zhongda and others in the distance, Qi Guangsha couldn't help but snort.
"They're old."
Tanhua Prince Wen shook his head slightly.
"Old" Qi Guangsha and the officials of Nadali Temple were stunned when they heard this, Zheng Zhonglei was in middle age, how could he be old.
Wang Ziwen pointed to his head and said to them, "It's old here. ” "Maybe."
Zheng Zhonglei also shook his head and stopped talking about it.
Everyone has his own thoughts, and he has his own views on things, and it is impossible for him to force others to accept his ideas.
After this little turmoil, the officials gathered together to share their opinions, and when the hour came, they returned to the hall.
In the hall, Ding Zhixiang and Jiangxi Governor Li Zhicui and others were there.
Seeing that the officials had all come out, he led them out of the museum and went to the pavilion to rest.
There is an itinerary for the next two days, and the time is tight, so there is no delay at all.
When passing through the middle of the square engraved with the names of the victims of the massacre, Qi Guangsha felt that there seemed to be a few fewer people in the team, and felt that something was wrong, so he looked back and forth a few times, and couldn't help but ask the people around him in confusion: "Zheng Zhonglei, where have they gone, why are they not in the team?"
"Which Zheng Zhonglei" The official was stunned, "The clerk is in the middle of the matter" "That's him."
"I don't know, maybe I'll go first."
"Gone" Qi Guangsha was very confused, but he didn't think much about it, he didn't deal with these people, and he didn't care what to do.
In the memorial hall, several pro-army fans were dragging several corpses out, and long blood marks were dragged out of the ground.
On the inside of the bone hall, Pan Xuezhong, a thousand households in the pro-army, looked at the pile of white bones in front of him, there was no expression on his face, and the red lantern hung above him, making his face gloomy and terrifying.
"I don't want you to die in a mess, Your Highness has a life, I Daming from now on, don't want benevolent and righteous people, don't forget people of history, so this official specially put you here, so that you know why you want to die."
After speaking, Pan Xuezhong leaned out and placed the three heads in front of him on the pile of bones.
These three heads are Zheng Zhonglei and the previous Imperial History of the Imperial Court and an official of the Ministry of Rites.
I don't know if it was deliberate, or if I really refused to look away, the eyes of the three heads were wide open. oshow7 t1706231537: