At this time, Shen Hongfei also said coldly: "As far as I know, in Qingdao, the Germans planned and designed a complete underground drainage system more than 100 years ago to keep Qingdao away from the hidden danger of waterlogging.
Why did the Germans design it more than 100 years ago?
All of them can ensure that the city is away from waterlogging, but our Luming City still cannot solve this problem in the 21st century."
The series of questions from Shen Hongfei and Liu Qingyu left the two directors speechless again.
But at this time, Bu Zuowei suddenly said: "Mayor Liu, with all due respect, Niu Cuicheng and I are fully aware of the situation you mentioned, and we also know that Los Angeles alone has 10,460 kilometers of underground drainage pipes.
And among them The largest pipes, you can even drive a car in them, and these pipe networks have been around for more than 100 years.
And now, the United States is spending tens of billions of dollars to renovate the underground pipe network, Mayor Liu, I think.
System construction It is not just a problem that can be solved by the two small departments of the ruling Drainage Management Office or our Water Bureau.
I admit that we have not done a good job in many tasks, but I think that if we really want to do a good job in the construction of the drainage system , first of all, the leadership of the municipal party committee should attach great importance to it, and then provide sufficient funding budget.
As long as there is sufficient funding budget, I believe that there is nothing that our two departments cannot accomplish if we join forces, including the construction of the urban drainage system. " Liu Qingyu couldn't help but darken his face when he heard this: "Comrade Bu Zuowei, as far as I know, whether it is your Water Conservancy Bureau or the Municipal Drainage Management Office, the annual construction and repair budget for you is as high as six Seventy million, then I think Excuse me, how did your two departments spend these 60 to 70 million yuan?
If you really build and repair according to the requirements, why does it happen to our Luming City every time the rain is just a little bit heavier?
It’s waterlogged” "Mayor Liu, you may have overlooked an objective fact.
After the demonstration of our experts, an important reason why our Luming City is prone to waterlogging is that due to the rapid urbanization process in our Luming City, everywhere is covered with cement and It's covered with asphalt, so if it rains, it can't penetrate."
At this time, a so-called drainage system expert stood up and spoke in a seemingly authoritative tone.
As soon as the expert finished speaking, Liu Qingyu said with a gloomy face: "You are an expert, right?
I'll give you a suggestion.
Don't tell me any objective reasons for a while, let alone tell me that cities are everywhere.
It is covered with cement asphalt and cannot penetrate.
Although this is one reason, is this reason any different from his grandma's creation out of thin air?
Do you know, isn’t Los Angeles in the United States covered with cement and asphalt?
Isn’t Tokyo in Japan covered with cement and asphalt?
Why do waterlogging rarely occur in these cities?
Why does our city of Luming, which is much less urbanized than these cities, suffer from waterlogging?
If you don’t do it well, you don’t do it well.
If you don’t do it seriously and responsibly, you don’t do it seriously and responsibly.”
When Liu Qingyu said this, two cold gleams suddenly appeared in his eyes.
He looked at Shen Hongfei and said: "Secretary Shen, I suggest that the Municipal Commission for Discipline Inspection intervene to investigate the daily work of the ruling Drainage Management Office, especially the Municipal Drainage Management Office.
How are the tens of millions spent on building and repairing drainage pipes every year used?
At the same time, we must also investigate the use of the water bureau's expenses.
If problems are found, they will be immediately investigated and dealt with on the spot, and they will be held accountable strictly and will never be tolerated. " After hearing this, Shen Hongfei nodded slightly and said in a deep voice: "Well, Comrade Liu Qingyu's proposal is very critical and important.
Comrade Zang Dongsheng, would you like to see if your Municipal Commission for Discipline Inspection will follow up?"
Zang Dongsheng nodded immediately and said, "Okay, Secretary Shen, Mayor Liu, I will make arrangements immediately after the meeting to ensure the completion of the task."
Upon hearing Zang Dongsheng's statement, Bu Zuowei and Niu Cuicheng suddenly sweated on their foreheads, and their faces became paler.
At this time, Executive Vice Mayor Liao Zhicai frowned and said: "Secretary Shen, I think that even if we investigate the Municipal Drainage Management Office and the Water Affairs Bureau, the construction problem of the drainage system will not be solved.
I think that Comrade Bu Zuowei had previously One thing that is said is very reasonable, and that is the issue of construction funds.
For most cities in China, as long as there is There is nothing that money cannot do.
Although our Luming City is the provincial capital, our annual financial budget is limited.
To build an excellent underground drainage system, the budget will definitely be in the tens of thousands.
Hundreds of millions, but the key problem now is that we in Luming City have no money.
Without money, how can we build a good drainage system?"
Liu Qingyu just smiled lightly after listening to Liao Zhicai's words: "Comrade Liao Zhicai, as party members and cadres, we must dare to think and do anything we do, and we must use our brains more.
If everyone just complains about excessive investment like you, , If we can’t find the funds, then our Luming City Government will not develop the economy.
We must know which of the developed cities in China we have now.
It is not something we have to overcome through thorns and difficulties.
In the process of development, the most common thing we encounter is the financial problem.
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Although this is a very urgent problem, it is not the key issue that limits our thinking.
What I can tell you clearly here is that as long as we in Luming City have good industrial development policies, we don’t have to worry about funding at all.”
Having said this, Liu Qingyu looked at Shen Hongfei: "Secretary Shen, do you know about the common ditch?"
Shen Hongfei nodded: "I know, Western countries started the construction of a common ditch more than a hundred years ago.
The so-called common ditch is actually to build a tunnel space underground in the city to connect municipal services, electricity, communications, gas, water supply and drainage.
Various pipelines are integrated into one, with special inspection ports, The lifting port and monitoring system implement unified planning, design, construction and management, completely changing the previous chaotic situation of separate construction and management of each pipeline.
When each pipeline needs to be opened, you only need to notify the relevant responsible department and connect the interface.
It is easy to repair and saves the country’s resources.”
Liu Qingyu nodded: "Secretary Liu is right.
In modern society, if we in Luming City want to build a drainage system, there is no need to assume a separate drainage system.
Instead, we should build a set of common ditches." system, and the drainage system will also be included in the common ditch system.
Moreover, the construction of common ditch is now a general trend and an internationally accepted method.”
Hearing what Liu Qingyu said, Liao Zhicai suddenly said: "Mayor Liu, as far as I know, some developed cities in our country also have common ditches on certain road sections.
However, although some common ditches have invested huge sums of money in construction, they are not If it is not really applied, will our Luming City have to repeat the mistakes of these cities?"
Liu Qingyu smiled faintly: "Comrade Liao Zhicai raised this question very well.
There are indeed some situations in our country where although the common trench has been built, there are no units to use it.
As a result, huge investments have been wasted.
Although this is a It is a typical case of failure, but I think that such a failure case does not mean the fault of Gonggou.
On the contrary, it reflects the inadequacy of management issues in some departments of our China.
It reflects the inadequacy of our China in relevant Legal lag.
In fact, to put it bluntly, the use of common ditch involves the interests of pipeline units.
In the previous years of operation, enterprises and institutions such as municipal administration, electricity, communications, gas, water supply and drainage, because the country did not form a unified management model, Therefore, these units have their own operating methods when laying pipelines.
Many At that time, the pipelines were already arranged when roads were built, and the benefits produced by the pipelines were amazing.
For example, if a user wanted to apply for electricity, the pipeline would be occupied by the user from the substation, and the user would have to pay.
This sum of money is huge.
However, if the pipelines of these units enter the common ditch, this money will be lost.
And they even have to pay for the use of the common ditch.
Therefore, these units are naturally unwilling.
This is a lack of management. " Shen Hongfei listened quietly to Liu Qingyu's words, nodding frequently while listening.
The question Liu Qingyu mentioned hit the nail on the head and hit the key point directly.
At this time, Liu Qingyu continued: "Of course, in addition to management deficiencies, there is also an important issue that hinders the development of the common ditch, and that is the legal lag.
For example, in pipeline planning and construction in Western European countries, There are strict legal regulations on the construction of shared pipeline corridors.
For example, Germany and the United Kingdom have strict regulations on pipeline maintenance and renewal.
There are strict legal regulations and approval procedures for digging roads, which stipulate that each excavation must not exceed 25 meters or 30 meters, and must not disturb residents.
Japan also promulgated the Common Pipe Trench Implementation Law in 1963, which solved the problems in the construction of common pipe trenches.
Key issues such as fund allocation and recovery, construction technology, etc. have been revised and improved many times with the development of urban construction.
However, in China, the relevant regulations on underground pipelines are seriously lagging behind.
Except for the guiding opinions on underground pipelines in the Urban and Rural Planning Law, there is still no national management method for underground pipelines, and local governments only began to issue relevant regulations in 2005.
Regardless of the implementation effect, in the promulgated management measures, matters such as underground pipeline planning, surveying and archival data management still belong to different departments.
Once it comes to the distribution of interests and the assumption of specific responsibilities, you will either compete with each other or play football with each other.
In the end, Still doing their own thing. " Hearing Liu Qingyu say this, Shen Hongfei and all the Municipal Party Committee Standing Committee members present had very gloomy expressions.
Liu Qingyu's words hit the nail on the head and directly pointed out the root of the problem.
Shen Hongfei asked in a deep voice: "Liu Qingyu, what do you think, if our Luming City wants to achieve something in this regard, how should we operate it?"