"Your Majesty, the minister thinks that for these hungry people who are making trouble, they must be suppressed and appeased.
You can't blindly suppress hard, nor can you blindly soothe and recruit peace.
The hungry people are in turmoil, it is because they are hungry, and the hungry have no choice but to rob and make trouble, so it can be said that in fact, the imperial court bears part of the responsibility, and they can be regarded as having a cause, and the imperial court cannot blindly kill them. ” "But at the same time, once many hungry people make trouble, they are not only for the sake of eating, they will even quickly become robbers, robbers, and even do all kinds of evil, murder and robbery, and other evil deeds, and even some people have worse intentions.
And if it's just to appease is not enough. ” "The minister believes that when the suppression and appeasement are used together, first of all, the imperial court should recruit the hungry people, give them relief food, transfer the young and strong to repair Xinjing, or repair water conservancy and dredge rivers, etc., in short, give them a work for relief, and can use their strength to earn food and food.
Secondly, for those leaders of the hungry people who do chaos, there must be no mercy, those who take the lead must be severely punished, catch one and kill the other, so that the followers will not be prosecuted, only the first evil will be pursued, then it will also fiercely deter the hungry people. ” "Of course, the key to the matter is not to suppress or appease, but to eat.
If they can eat a full meal, even if they are half full, the people will not take risks and be willing to risk the crime of killing their heads to cause chaos. ” Li Shimin listened to it, his heart was very heavy, and Li Chao's words were to the point.
In fact, the monarchs and prime ministers of the DPRK and China, who can not see this.
But the question is still that, where does so much food come from?
Li Shimin came to ask Li Chao about the suppression, and he really wanted to ask Li Chao how to get food.
At this time, in fact, Li Chao doesn't have too many good ways, and he has thought of all the ways he should think, what to catch locusts, dig wild vegetables, fish and hunt, what to move people out of the disaster area, and what to resettle the counterpart.
What is the cash for work, what is the rationing of food stamps, the direct control of the grain trade by the imperial court, and so on.
These methods are indeed effective, but they are not enough to completely solve the problems at hand.
In 1942, 96 of Henan's 111 counties were affected by the disaster, of which 39 counties were serious, and 12 million people loved the disaster.
At that time, there were 30 million people in Henan, and almost 3 million people died of hunger and famine-related diseases during the famine, and 3 million people fled Henan.
Three million people died three million because of famine caused by drought and locust plagues.
The population of Henan Province in Datang, including Shandong in later generations, is certainly not as large as in later generations, but Henan, as the most densely populated Central Plains region in this era, still has a very large population, plus Hebei, Hedong, Guanzhong, Shannan, Huainan and other disaster-stricken areas, the most elite areas of Datang, the disaster is serious.
Many people have been evacuated after various relief measures, but many people remain in the disaster area.
The imperial court has been transporting grain to the disaster area, but when winter comes, rivers begin to freeze in many places in the north, making transportation even more difficult.
Not to mention that there is not much food in various places now, even if there is food, it is difficult to transport it in.
Yang Guang conquered Goguryeo that year, transported one stone of grain to Liaodong, and went to seven stones for cultivation on the way.
In this era, it was very difficult to transport food over long distances.
In winter, the north is largely unable to transport grain.
"At least 10 million people are still in the disaster areas today, if we can't alleviate the current situation," Li Shimin said here, paused for a while, and then said for a long time, "According to Xuan Ling and Ru Hui's estimates, if we can't immediately improve the current situation, then if the famine is more severe next year, at least one to two percent of the victims will starve to death." ” Tens of millions of victims, one to two percent, that is, one or two million people will starve to death.
This is a creepy number to listen to.
But Li Chao will not think that this is alarmist, in ancient times, the ability to resist disasters was weaker, and the ability to resist famine was also weaker.
In fact, in the ancient war years, the population decreased greatly, and the number of people who often died directly from the war was not large, but more died from the famine caused by the war.
During the Great War and Chaos of the Three Kingdoms and the end of the Jin Dynasty, the population dropped by tens of millions at every turn, except for some people who became hidden households, and there were indeed many people who died, and the vast majority of them died of wartime famine.
The Tang Dynasty has just been founded, and the world has just been unified.
Especially in the Central Plains, which was completely destroyed at the end of the Sui Dynasty, the people had no savings, the official had no storage, and in the event of a catastrophe, they could only rely on the imperial court.
If the imperial court is not able to provide relief, it will either starve to death or rebel.
A million people starved to death, it was really a lot of bones, and there was no rooster crow for a hundred miles.
For the imperial court, this is not only a matter of starvation, if the matter really reaches such a serious point, then countless hungry and screaming hungry people will be like a monstrous flood, or a spark that burns the prairie and burns everything.
How did the Sui Dynasty die At the end of the great cause, countless hungry people rose up in all directions, and rebelled one after another, and the world was in turmoil.
The Sui army is indeed strong, but no matter how strong it is, it can't extinguish countless rebellions, extinguish one place, and rise dozens of places.
If you rebel and be suppressed, you will lose your head, but if you don't have anything to eat, you will die, and if you rebel, you can at least eat a few full meals before you die.
If the hungry people are not afraid of death, then who will extinguish the Li family of the Guanlong nobles who replaced the Sui Dynasty in the end, but it was those hungry people who really buried the Sui Dynasty.
Li Shimin is a person who has experienced the great turmoil at the end of the Sui Dynasty, and he is very worried that the Tang Dynasty will also encounter such a result.
"Wen Yuan, I need you to give me a solution immediately, a solution, how not to want one or two million people, how not to let my first year of Zhenguan become hungry people everywhere, and smoke everywhere."
Li Chao sighed.
Said slowly, "Your Majesty, in the current situation, it is impossible not to starve to death, now we can only think about one thing, how much will we starve to death, and who will starve to death."
These words are extremely cruel, but Li Shimin and Li Chao can't escape it, they can only face these cruel facts, and then make cruel decisions.
"In the current situation, we have only two ways: First, continue to borrow grain from the landlords and rich households, or directly collect grain, let them take out all the grain, and only leave them rations.
In this way, the imperial court was able to raise as much food as possible, and the already small amount of food could be used to the maximum. ” Li Shimin listened and nodded, this is also the time when there is no way, borrowing grain from rich households like this is no different from robbing, but now they are all burning their eyebrows, and there is no other way to do it without collecting the grain from rich households.
"What about the second option?"
"The second way is to adjust the food supply.
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Priority should be given to ensuring the supply of relief food for young and able-bodied, and reducing the supply of women, children and children. ” Qingzhuang is the easiest to rebel, so the imperial court has to find a way to gather all the young and strong to work for relief, let them work under the supervision of the government, and give them food.
But food is limited, and it is unrealistic to want everyone to be fed.
Even if everyone is half-full, it's hard now.
Now the food supply can only be further reduced, the young and strong will be reduced, and the old and weak women will be reduced even more.
In doing so, it is likely to make these old and weak more likely to starve to death, which is very cruel.
But as is the custom in many places, when the old man is old, he will go into the mountains on his own.
To enter the mountain is to go to the mountain and wait for death.
"There's no better way?"
"Give the old and weak a little food, and then let them fend for themselves, and allow them to leave their hometowns and go to other places to eat."
Li Chaodao.
This so-called food is actually begging, but now it is a great famine, and the disaster area is thousands of miles, and if you can get food to fend for yourself, you are actually giving up on them.
"Rong Zhen reconsiders it" Li Shimin couldn't make such a determination, and with such a will, he was also starving to death, but he was a selective starvation person in the imperial court.
Maybe fewer people will starve to death like this, and those who will survive will still be young and strong, but Li Shimin is difficult to decide. t1706231537: