The government entered and the people retreated, so that the government-run industry continued to be the main body of the Ming economy, and even made the workers hold shares.Zhu Youxiao was quite shocked when he heard this, he didn't expect Bi Ziyan to have such insight.You must know that employee stock ownership is a very advanced management system in later generations.Although everyone knows that this is conducive to the company's strengthening, few bosses are willing to do this, and most of them are puppets of capital rather than equal to employees and share profits.At this time, Sun Chuanting also had an idea and said: "This is a solution!"
”However, from the minister's point of view, this is not enough, and the equalization system of the Sui and Tang dynasties should be restored, and the land under the world should also be returned to the state and divided equally among the people!
Monopolized by the imperial court, the wealth of the world is the most important thing than the land!
Since the wealthy families exploited the tenants by renting their land, and the wealthy of the middle class went bankrupt due to the sale of their land, they were not allowed to buy or sell their land. ”"That's right!
People in the world can have private property, but only the right to distribute land and wealth needs to be in the hands of the imperial court. ”Lu Xiangsheng also echoed."
You Aiqing is right."
Zhu Youxiao replied.He had to admit that the ministers in front of him who had received Confucian education since childhood also had an advantage, they were not as deeply influenced by the West and cared too much about the market as he was a traveler in later generations, and these people still had the idea of serving the world in their bones, otherwise there would be no figure like Wang Mang."
Your Majesty, the minister thinks that it is not overkill, it is still necessary to be cautious, especially the land, if it is forcibly taken into possession of the imperial court, it may lead to the emergence of Wang Mang's rebellion, and the land is forcibly divided among the people, and there is also a suspicion of abandoning the land transaction contract without authorization!
In this way, the prestige of the imperial court will be damaged. ”But at this time, Zhu Xieyuan said something out of place, which was regarded as pouring cold water on the ministers who began to advocate public ownership.Just because Zhu Xieyuan's family was a big landlord, although he admitted that Bi Ziyan and others were worried about the necessity, he really couldn't accept Sun Chuanting's radical idea of distributing the land of the big landlord to the people."
The minister also thinks that the division of land is inappropriate, which can easily lead to turmoil, and if the land is divided into acres and the officials and gentry pay grain in one piece, the land is in whose hands it does not affect the official money, as for the people, if the big landlord exploits too much, they can go to the factory to work without planting."
Wen Tiren also replied."
There are so many factories, and factories have to be built on land!
The big landlords, because they occupy the land, can sit on the rent and enjoy the profits, without labor, is a non-labor income!
hindering the purpose of increasing the wealth of society and distributing it to the producers as much as possible, so it is necessary to divide the land!
I know that all the princes have a wide range of fertile land, but how can they govern the country be private?
”Sun Chuanting replied.Zhu Xieyuan saw that Sun Chuanting said so strongly that it was necessary to divide the land, and emphasized that rent collection was non-labor income, and bluntly said that governing the country could not be selfish, as a ruler, he also had to consider it for the sake of national interests, so he softened his tone and said: "Rent collection is regarded as non-labor income, and it is not desirable, but the land accumulated by large households is also the accumulation of hard work for generations, and rashly taking it is indeed against the original intention of the imperial court to encourage the people to create wealth!"
”Then, Zhu Xieyuan compromised: "Your Majesty, in the opinion of the ministers, can you first limit the land rent, if there are those who dare to exploit excessively, and then seize their land and property, this can be regarded as a famous teacher." ”"Your Majesty, the minister also thinks that what Zhu Ge Lao said is pertinent, and in addition, in order to prevent the annexation of land, and the emergence of more large landlords, so that the profits from food and rent increase, and also to prevent unscrupulous descendants from selling their fields to survive, they can expressly prohibit land trading, traders, and seizure of their land, so that it can be regarded as a famous teacher."
Wen Tiren replied at this time, like Zhu Xieyuan, although he is a big landowner, as an auxiliary minister of the imperial court, he does not dare to completely care about his own interests."
How can innovation be so tepid!
If you don't divide the fields, there will always be those who don't get for nothing!
”Lu Xiangsheng was as radical as Sun Chuanting and supported the direct division of the land.Shoufu Liu Hongxun couldn't help but ask at this time: "If you really want to divide the field, won't Your Majesty's Huangzhuang Tian also have to be divided?"
”Lu Xiangsheng shut up at this time.Sun Chuanting couldn't say anything more.Zhu Youxiao himself couldn't help but laugh dumbly, that's right, the emperor is also a big landlord, but I'm afraid that he is still the biggest landlord."
The land cannot be divided for the time being, and the meaning of my imperial village is to ensure that the monarch's power is guaranteed, and no people with ulterior motives will steal the power of the court!"
Zhu Youxiao said decisively, and asked, "Can you understand?"
”"Wait for you to understand!"
Liu Hongxun and the others immediately replied.As the emperor, Zhu Youxiao did rely on the possession of the means of production of the Huangzhuang to feed his imperial army, and thus protect his imperial power.And he naturally doesn't want to lose his power now.It's not just because he really craves the feeling of being in power.But he really didn't dare to guarantee that without imperial power, the people of the world would no longer be ruled.Sun Chuanting heard Zhu Youxiao say this, and also understood the emperor's concerns, so he dispelled the idea of collecting land for state ownership and all land in the world.Lu Xiangsheng was the same, and said: "Although the land cannot be divided, as just discussed, the land rent must be strictly restricted, and land transactions must also be prohibited!"
”"That's how it should be."
Zhu Youxiao replied."
Your Majesty, do you think that it is too ruthless to take into account that a person whose family has suddenly suffered a change and is in urgent need of exchanging land for money and is in dire need of exchanging land for money to temporarily overcome the difficult situation, is it too ruthless to allow him to trade?"
Liu Hongxun asked."
Then you can mortgage it, you can mortgage it to a government-run bank, which is equivalent to selling it to the imperial court."
Lu Xiangsheng replied."
Feasible!"
Zhu Youxiao nodded first.But at this time, Liu Hongxun stood up and looked distressed: "Your Majesty!
It is true that Lu Ge and other words are quite desirable, but since ancient times, Emperor Tiangao said that it is difficult for the imperial power to go to the countryside, and it has always been a problem, so the ministers are worried that even if the court decree is issued like this, there will be those who violate the yang and yin, and even read the scriptures of the court crookedly, or are too lazy to execute, such as the slaughter of the retired soldiers in Kashima this time, it is caused by ignoring the imperial power, so the old minister believes that the people have to rely on His Majesty to care all the time!
”Liu Hongxun said to Zhu Youxiao deeply: "The old minister implores Your Majesty, don't slack off, only Your Majesty can govern the world!"
”Zhu Youxiao sighed after hearing this, and said: "But people can't always count on Mingjun, Qingguan, heroes, and others!"
The important thing about justice is that they have to rely on themselves, and the people too, they have to learn to fight for their own interests!
”"But this time, the Kashima veterans took the initiative to fight for it, but they were still slaughtered, but they still need rentiers to be fair and upright in order to make the world clear."
Liu Hongxun replied.Zhu Youxiao glanced at him and retorted: "But it's also because they took the initiative to fight for it, so that such a thing happened, so that I can know!"
If they swallow their anger, the world will not know!
They are good, and in the end, they didn't swallow their anger and die, and because of their behavior, they can strengthen my determination to do justice for them!
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